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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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The Bergevin offer is still on the table:
Markov for 2013 1st + Oleksiak |
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The Bergevin offer is still on the table:
Markov for 2013 1st + Oleksiak - soad_live
Very good offer, a win win for everyone. |
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bubbachewie
Dallas Stars |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.04.2010
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The Bergevin offer is still on the table:
Markov for 2013 1st + Oleksiak - soad_live
Why would Dallas do that? Makes no sense for them. |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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Why would Dallas do that? Makes no sense for them. - bubbachewie
No?? Why? Your pp is the reason you are probably wont make the playoffs. |
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bubbachewie
Dallas Stars |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.04.2010
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I think you overrate Markov. The Stars are going with a lot of youth this year and trading their number one defensive prospect and their number 1 for a 34 year old Defensive man which may lead to a play off spot. No way, I am sure Canidians fans would jump on this. GM Joe would be run out of Dallas if this happened. Big Rig and number 1 I want Subban. |
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jerryb
Dallas Stars |
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Location: TX Joined: 06.27.2009
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No?? Why? Your pp is the reason you are probably wont make the playoffs. - soad_live
34 year old defenseman making 6M per year and hasn't played a full season since 2008/9 for top defense prospect and a 1st - NO! |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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I think you overrate Markov. The Stars are going with a lot of youth this year and trading their number one defensive prospect and their number 1 for a 34 year old Defensive man which may lead to a play off spot. No way, I am sure Canidians fans would jump on this. GM Joe would be run out of Dallas if this happened. Big Rig and number 1 I want Subban. - bubbachewie
Though to convince me that big D is going with a lot of youth when signing Jagr, Whitney, etc.
But i agree, Markov probably worth 1st with mid prospect. |
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jerryb
Dallas Stars |
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Location: TX Joined: 06.27.2009
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Though to convince me that big D is going with a lot of youth when signing Jagr, Whitney, etc.
But i agree, Markov probably worth 1st with mid prospect. - soad_live
Jagr and Whitney are meant to be stopgap while the players drafted over the last 3 years have a chance to develop. By the way, even with these two players the Stars are in the bottom 13 for average roster age |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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Jagr and Whitney are meant to be stopgap while the players drafted over the last 3 years have a chance to develop. By the way, even with these two players the Stars are in the bottom 13 for average roster age - jerryb
Well, Markov can help you win while youngers develop. |
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jerryb
Dallas Stars |
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Location: TX Joined: 06.27.2009
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Well, Markov can help you win while youngers develop. - soad_live
He might help this year but not worth trading top prospects and high draft choices for - Jager and Whitney did not cost the Stars any players. Just out of curiosity, why the big desire to trade Markov - don't like his cap hit next year or his lack of games played over the last few years? |
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bubbachewie
Dallas Stars |
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 03.04.2010
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Though to convince me that big D is going with a lot of youth when signing Jagr, Whitney, etc.
But i agree, Markov probably worth 1st with mid prospect. - soad_live[/quote
According to NHL Numbers the Oilers average age is 27.184, to Dallas' 27.725. Would your consider Edmonton a veteran team? The Stars have started 12 players on the roster this year in their freshman or sophomore NHL seasons. (Bachman, Nilstorp, Larsen, Vincour, Jordie Benn, Oleksiak, Sceviour, Roussel, Garbutt, Dillon, Smith, Eakin). |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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He might help this year but not worth trading top prospects and high draft choices for - Jager and Whitney did not cost the Stars any players. Just out of curiosity, why the big desire to trade Markov - don't like his cap hit next year or his lack of games played over the last few years? - jerryb
We already have Subban and Diaz is coming along really well to. And next year we got Beaulieu who will be a beast offensively.
Markov is expendable for us. He struggled a bit off late on the stats side but log alot of minutes. He plays, pp, pk and a lot of time 5 on 5. If he plays like that all year, his cap hit isn't bad at all.
I just asked because you guys seems to need a pp quaterback. It would make the difference between finishing 8-9-10 and probably miss the playoffs or finishing 5-6-7. |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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[quote=soad_live]Though to convince me that big D is going with a lot of youth when signing Jagr, Whitney, etc.
But i agree, Markov probably worth 1st with mid prospect. - bubbachewie[/quote
According to NHL Numbers the Oilers average age is 27.184, to Dallas' 27.725. Would your consider Edmonton a veteran team? The Stars have started 12 players on the roster this year in their freshman or sophomore NHL seasons. (Bachman, Nilstorp, Larsen, Vincour, Jordie Benn, Oleksiak, Sceviour, Roussel, Garbutt, Dillon, Smith, Eakin).
No i know, but if GM brought Jagr and Whitney, its somehow to win games and make playoffs. Well, your team need pp if you want to make playoffs. Markok is still one of the best to quarterback and i dont think his contract is a problem for the young guns.
Now i know you think the idea of getting Markov for the powerpaly is good. But what would a fair return for him? |
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tootooisapunk
Dallas Stars |
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Location: Bedford, TX Joined: 04.23.2007
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Though to convince me that big D is going with a lot of youth when signing Jagr, Whitney, etc.
But i agree, Markov probably worth 1st with mid prospect. - soad_live
If we don't make the playoffs there is a good chance Jagr, Whitney, Morrow, Ryder, and Robidas are traded for youth/picks. Joe is halfway through his rebuild of this team. Players like Dillon, Smith, Benn, and Oleksiak are the future of this team.
If you guys want to dump Markov and make room for your younger players Joe might be interested but comments from the owner and Joe indicate they aren't interested in mortgaging the future for a sixth to ninth place finish in the conference. |
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tootooisapunk
Dallas Stars |
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Location: Bedford, TX Joined: 04.23.2007
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No i know, but if GM brought Jagr and Whitney, its somehow to win games and make playoffs. Well, your team need pp if you want to make playoffs. Markok is still one of the best to quarterback and i dont think his contract is a problem for the young guns.
Now i know you think the idea of getting Markov for the powerpaly is good. But what would a fair return for him? - soad_live
They signed Jagr and Whitney to be role models, get a few seats sold, and get to the salary floor. |
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